Wednesday, May 21, 2008

Clinton Further Revealed

I know what solidarity will say, but I don't care. The paragraphs below are from an AP story today. Further proof that Hillary Clinton is prepared to destroy the party's chances to beat McCain this year so she can run again in 2012.

Hillary Clinton agreed to rules that disenfranchised Florida and Michigan voters. Now, because she ran a pitiful campaign and lost, she poses as a champion of Florida and Michigan voters. Now, it's imperative for democracy that their votes be counted, even though Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan, and no one campaigned in Florida, even though it's changing the rules in the middle of the game. But then, what can we expect from a Clinton? They are absolutely devoid of any sense of fair play. Their only ethic is ruthlessness and lying. They are absolutely disgusting.

Excerpt from AP story

In an interview Wednesday with The Associated Press, Clinton said she is willing to take her fight to seat Florida's and Michigan's delegates to the convention if the two states want to go that far.

Asked whether she would support the states if they appeal an unfavorable rules committee decision to the convention floor, the former first lady replied:

"Yes I will. I will, because I feel very strongly about this."

"I will consult with Floridians and the voters in Michigan because it's really their voices that are being ignored and their votes that are being discounted, and I'll support whatever the elected officials and the voters in those two states want to do."

Taking her battle to the convention would fly in the face of an increasing number of party leaders who say the contest needs to be wrapped up shortly after the last primary on June 3 to prepare adequately for the fall election.

Asked if she now envisioned the race extending beyond June 3, Clinton replied: "It could, I hope it doesn't. I hope it's resolved to everyone's satisfaction by that date, because that's what people are expecting, but we'll have to see what happens."

But trailing Obama by almost 200 delegates, even seating both Florida and Michigan delegations in the way most favorable to Clinton would still leave her behind the Illinois senator.


solidarity said...

Typical Clinton hater comments. Nothing more, nothing less. Did you take that directly from the Clinton hater blogs?

If only you could get beyond your hate maybe you could add some substance to the discussion.

The facts are that the DNC made a big mistake a long time ago disenfranchising FL and MI. I said the same thing back then. It was plain stupid. It's now time to fix that mistake.

It really doesn't matter who "agreed." to the so-called rules. And, Tom, I didn't know HRC herself was on the committee that drafted, agreed to, and implemented any rule. Can you please offer any citation to that supports your statement that she "agreed" to the rules before they were implemented by the party (other than an Obama blogger or the Obama web site).

Also, tom, may I suggest you read the actual rules. Nowhere does it say that states like FL or MI will lose all their delegates. The most you can legitimately or factually say is that she supported the rule that provided for 50% loss of delegates.

Further, those very same rules you love to talk about (but apparently haven't read) allow for an appeal of the committee's decision to strip the states of their delegates. So, in reality, HRC ands her supporters are following the rules by appealing the decision.

And, after you finally read the DNC rules, please explain to me how following those rules and appealing the committee's decision, and seating two populous states' delegates "destroys" the Democrats' chances in November. Do you have any proof of that outrageous statement.

I suppose not.

tom dresslar said...

I'm sure it would be time to "fix that mistake" if the positions were reversed. I'm sure Clinton would be out there railing against the injustice, and how this compares to the great civil rights issues of our time.

Just because you're blind to her motives, Walter, doesn't mean I have to be.

The bottom line is Obama won this fair and square, and now Clinton is trying to steal it from him. Time for the superdelegates to stop her from destroying Obama's chances to beat McCain in the fall. If they don't, she will.

That's your candidate, Walter. A complete pig.

solidarity said...

Hate, hate, and even more hate. Tom, it is you who has lost all perspective. It is you who has is blind to motive. Calling a woman a pig. Just more sexism. And, then refusing to cite to anything to support your claims about the rules and refusing to make a reasoned argument, even though you are give the direct chance.

All HRC supporters are blind and ignorant blind according to you, an Obama supporter, We are the part of the past according to your candidate. It's no wonder up to 30% of us will not vote for him in the fall. Who among us would want to. Talk about destroying the Dems chances.

tom dresslar said...

Since when is it sexist to call a woman a pig? If it makes you feel better, I think Bill Clinton is a complete pig, too.

You and your candidate are the ones who can't make a reasoned argument for continuing to stay in a race she lost fair and square. Don't vote for Obama. He won't need it to win, unless Clintons are allowed to follow their instincts and drag the Party down with her.

You want a reasoned argument? Obama played by the rules, ran a better campaign and, unless robbed, will win undee the rules everyone started with.

I can't believe Hillary Clinton doesn't turn your stomach.